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Dear Brothers and Sisters in IAUA (ee-ah-oo-ah) our Father,

Greetings on this day of preparation for the weekly Sabbath. I pray this newsletter finds you in good health and happy in the service of IAUA. This is the 19th day of the 10th month of God's Sacred Calendar in the estimated year 6015 Anno Mundi.

It is 12 weeks and 1 day until the new year begins with the Spring yearly Sabbaths. The first Unleavened Bread yearly Sabbath begins as always the evening of the 15th day of the 1st month (Sabbath, April 7th on the 2012 Gregorian Calendar, beginning sunset on Friday, April 6th). This year the day of the week will be the same as it was in the year IAUShUO was crucified on Golgotha.

An amazing thing occurs in the Gregorian Calendar years of both 2011 and 2012. Those who follow the Millerite Calendar and the Jewish Calendar agree with the dates my research, and others, has determined for the Gregorian Calendar dates of God's Sacred Calendar!

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A new visitor to the website sends this email of comments and questions. My responses are interspersed in Bold below.

Hello Br. Clark-san from Osaka Japan,

In researching how God’s calendar works and how the Millerites came up with exactly the correct date for the Day of Atonement in 1844, i came across your web site. In searching for the “statutes of the Lord” recently, again i came across your website, so this time i favorited it, and spent a large portion of today reading your book: Preparing for the End of Time by Frank T. Clark.

Just a short note about myself here – I’m 3rd generation Seventh-day Adventist, 50y.o., have seriously considered leaving the church twice because of bad things it promotes or accepts (i believe the allowing of killing unborn babies by our church is the biggest current sin i know of), but have stayed in the church thanks to Ezekiel 9 and Revelation 3, have lived in Japan for 16 years doing missionary work/teaching English etc., and my life work if you will is to spread the first edition of The Great Controversy book (1858) in the various languages of the world.

As the editor for dmoz (open directory project) category SDA books, i would like to add your book to the list. This should help it get ranked higher in search engine results. Please note that i do not agree with everything in it. There is one very big error in it, and a couple of other things that i don’t agree with, but i think there is a wealth of information in an easy-to-understand manner that would help many. In reading thru most of your site except for the other books, it appears that your world-view and mine are very similar – i consider myself “fundamentalist”, many people in the church get riled when i ask them to repent of their sins, and even your view of what a web page should be is very like mine If you want to see my main web site, please look at:

www.earlysda.com

Would you mind me asking a couple of questions about your book?

I love answering questions!

You write: “No religion has the whole truth or is the exclusive source of truth.” But Jesus is the author and source of all light, so if the religion does not even believe in Jesus, i don’t believe they can possibly be a “source of truth”.

I don't see the disagreement. As I stated, there is no religion which has the whole truth or is an exclusive source. Therefore, this would much more apply to a religion which does not believe in Jesus. It is an error of logic to believe stating "no religion has all truth" implies "all religions have some truth".

You mention a lot about the “Fourth Angel”. I’m not sure if you have ever considered it or not, but i believe this moniker is quite dangerous. In my studies of the inspired writings, i’ve never found that term. I used to think this was an extremely minor point not even needing a mention, but in travelling around for around 5 years spreading the 1858gc book, i met people who believe in Fred Wright who claimed to be the 4th Angel’s messenger just as Ellen White was for the 3rd Angel. And in reading the 1858gc, it is clear that while it is true that these are physical angels, they also represent a message, and there are only 3 messages. As you state very well in your book, the Loud Cry angel basically repeats the 2nd Angel’s message to give power and force to the 3rd Angel’s message. That is almost an exact quote from chapter 34 of the 1858gc “The Loud Cry”. So what to call that angel? In Ellen White’s writings it is often called the “other angel”, or the “Loud Cry angel”, or the “angel of Revelation 18”. You see, to say there are FOUR angels means that there must be FOUR messages, and there are not.

There can be no error in using a simple numerical designation. There are indeed four messages even though the fourth is similar to the second. Anyone may claim anything they want but this does not invalidate that something exists. There will be a messenger for the fourth angel as described in Malachi 4:5. It can be easily proved a prophet is not that messenger, if he does not teach Malachi 4:4 and everything else the Bible teaches.

“The church will soon face the realization the commandments and the statutes are tied together. Denying one will place you in mockery of upholding the other.” I believe you are being prophetic here. This is exactly what i see coming on us as a people, and soon.

“Do not let the early Sunday laws provoke an inappropriate response and do not let them lull you into complacency. “ Very, very appropriate advice, thank you!

I am a poor punctuator also, but there were several places where your comma placement made the sentence either unintelligible, or subject to misinterpretation. This is the biggest example i saw: “Ellen clearly indicated, there was additional new light, she did not know.”

I don't see the confusion but I agree I am not an English student.

“Criticism, judgment, and argument do not serve the cause of God. God will provide Himself a prophet to call out a reformation and revival in the church and in the world.” While agreeing we are not to criticize for the sake of criticizing or tearing down, we are ALL called to judge with righteous judgment, which is the main focus of the 144,000’s message – repent.

Judgment is a word with many broad meanings... The 144k are prophets.

“Passover is the first full moon after the equinox.” I don’t agree, as that invalidates October 22, 1844, which brings up the one very large error i found in your book: “They were correct in recognizing it was the 10th day of the seventh month on God's Sacred Calendar. They were correct in the beliefs and meaning of the day even though they made an error and selected the wrong date on the Gregorian calendar.” No, Brother, please don’t tear down what God has set up. October 22, 1844 was exactly the correct day. That is verified by the inspired words. I wonder if you have gone thru the Grace Amadon collection? What i’ve been able to find online shows very clearly how the Millerites were deep Bible students, and how God led them to the day. Of course the Holy Spirit spoke thru Ellen White verifying that as the exact date.

The year is correct. October 22 was not the 10th day of the seventh month in that year or any year. The day and month of the year is wrong, which can be verified from the words of EGW, which are quoted on my website in many places. (Such as http://www.IAUA.name/Archives/2010-05-16.html) She is unlikely to contradict herself. I believe the idea of a correct date to which she referred somewhere only applied to the year. I would be interested in investigating a quote which uses the words "exact date" or even "correct date", but I don't find one.

Currently i see no value in the sacred name idea. I may be wrong, but you ask: “How would you feel if you went to a foreign country and they changed your name?” ummmm, that happens to me every day. This is Japan. To make them try to twist their tongue a foreign way to pronounce my name in a fashion that i believe is the correct way is very, very, very self-centered and insensitive. This whole sacred name idea is very close to magic spells.

It seems like you are twisting my words. It is not required to have perfect pronunciation. Whatever is reasonably close, without making excuses, is acceptable.

But then you write what i believe to be correctly: “There is no benefit to be derived by emphasizing Hebrew titles to refer to God in an English speaking society. This practice conveys an attitude of separation, elitism and condemnation of what is familiar to a person.” Can’t the same thing be said for the name? What i’m looking for is inspired words from God saying that we must pronounce the name in the Hebrew. Do you have such evidence?

In my book on the Sacred Name, I explain in great detail why a name is important and provide Bible quotes to support it. Yes, I also provide quotes where God says it is important.

“I do not find any value in emphasizing the use of Hebrew words when there are appropriate English equivalents.” Same with me. And that should go for the names too.

“Have you ever pondered why women are criticized for wearing a necklace but men will adorn themselves with ties?” Yes, and i’ve told many SDA Brethren in the various countries i’ve travelled to, that if we all stopped this worldly custom and put that money in God’s treasury, there would undoubtedly be many more souls in the kingdom of God. I say it not with a sense of command, but in a sense of to get them to think. I agree with you wholeheartedly that it is easy to get caught up in rules and regulations and forgetting that we are supposed to be representing Jesus. He was stern at times, and very tender at times. If we follow his life pattern, aren’t we safe? That’s one of the greatest evidences that we should be keeping the statutes of the Lord today – because Jesus did!

“Kippah, Tefillin, and the Mezuzah.... It is important to note, these practices are not statutes.” That is true for the Kippah, but it looks to be true for the Tefillin and Mezuzah. Of course maybe not in the way the current Jews do it, but there are commands in the Bible to put God’s words on our hands and between our eyes. Is it just symbolical? I don’t know yet. But it is VERY interesting that the same place he said to put the statutes is exactly the same place mentioned in Ezekiel for the Seal of God, and in Revelation for the Mark of the Beast!!

Yes, it is symbolic in all places it is mentioned. EGW also states it is symbolic and not an actual mark.

Well, i didn’t intend to make this a full-length review of your book here, as you’re probably thinking i’m wanting to put you down, but please believe me, that is not at all my intention. There is lots of good information in it, and i’m just raising these points to maybe help you make the book closer to the truth, or maybe you can give me advice so i can come closer to the truth, or maybe we can just amiably agree to disagree on the minor points

I would very much like to know any info you have on the Passovers kept by Br. VanDenburgh’s group in CA as i’m thinking about going to my first one this year. Any advice would be very much appreciated.

http://BibleExplorations.com I hope to see you there.

Keep your eyes up on Jesus always!!

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It was extremely encouraging to hear from someone who is deeply and sincerely studying and following the Word of God.

Are you willing to follow God all the way?

I pray we may all continue to seek love, peace, and unity in truth preparing for the soon coming of IAUShUO (ee-ah-oo-shoo-oh) Messiah, the Son of God.

Frank T. Clark
Eliau@IAUA.name
www.IAUA.name

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