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Dear Brothers and Sisters in IAUA (ee-ah-oo-ah) our Father,

Greetings on this day of preparation for the weekly Sabbath. I pray this newsletter finds you in good health and happy in the service of IAUA. This is the 16th day of the 12th month of God's Sacred Calendar in the estimated year 6015 Anno Mundi.

It is 4 weeks and 1 day until the Sacred New Year begins with the first Unleavened Bread yearly Sabbath the evening of the 15th day of the 1st month (Sabbath, April 7th on the 2012 Gregorian Calendar, beginning sunset on Friday, April 6th). This year the day of the week will be the same as it was in the year IAUShUO was crucified on Golgotha.

An amazing thing occurs in the Gregorian Calendar years of both 2011 and 2012. Those who follow the Millerite Calendar and the Jewish Calendar agree with the dates my research, and others, has determined for the Gregorian Calendar dates of God's Sacred Calendar!


I began a discussion on the LinkedIn website group "Adventists Linked" which triggered a lot of responses. So many responses I will present only some of them and only part of them this week.

Is the Seventh-day Adventist church no longer a movement, but simply a denomination that is stuck in it's ways?

Have we forgotten?

"There is much light yet to shine forth from the law of God and the gospel of righteousness." {1888 166.1}

"We must not for a moment think that there is no more light, no more truth to be given us. We are in danger of becoming careless, by our indifference losing the sanctifying power of truth, and composing ourselves with the thought, "I am rich and increased with goods, and have need of nothing." [REV. 3:17.] While we must hold fast to the truths which we have already received, we must not look with suspicion upon any new light that God may send. {GW92 390.1} {RH, August 7, 1894 par. 1} {GW 310.4}

"The question has been asked me, "Do you think that the Lord has any more light for us as a people?" I answer that he has light that is new to us, and yet it is precious old light that is to shine forth from the word of truth. We have only the glimmerings of the rays of the light that is yet to come to us. We are not making the most of the light which the Lord has already given us, and thus we fail to receive the increased light; we do not walk in light already shed upon us." {RH, June 3, 1890 par. 2} {1SM 401.2}

"We call ourselves commandment-keeping people, but we do not comprehend the exceeding breadth of the far-reaching principles of the law of God; we do not understand its sacred character. Many who claim to be teachers of the truth, have no real conception of what they are doing in teaching the law of God, because they do not have a living knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ." {RH, June 3, 1890 par. 3}


Dave Clark • The problem is that Seventh-Day Adventists are afraid of anything which is perceived to be new. In the aftermath of Elder Ballenger, Ellen G. White gave such strong council (MR760 pp 15,16) that Seventh-Day Adventists are now corporately afraid to do anything different from what we have been doing for over 150 years. So, yes, we have stagnated.

We have stagnated just as those succeeding chains of religions/denominations which E.G.White pointed out in The Great Controversy. Some new understanding of God's Word came to light ("new light") and a new religion/denomination was started because the old one was too bound in its traditions. But, when the founder of that new religion/denomination died, that new movement stagnated with the death of the one who began it.

But, I also agree with Ellen White when she said, "It is too late in this earth’s history to get up something new." The solution this time is not about a religion or a denomination. Salvation doesn't come by means of a corporate religion. Instead, God is looking for 144,000 individuals who will stand up, accept, and live every Word of God as Gospel Truth. Not just as lip service, no, no. We Seventh-Day Adventists already have that. We claim the whole Bible as truth, yet we pick and choose as to what applies to us, today. Nominal Christianity does that, too, and we criticize them for it.

If we truly love God with all our hearts and all our minds, then it is time we look at the Man in the Mirror of God's Full Law -- not just the Ten Commandments -- and make the change the Holy Spirit is willing to show to us in that Mirror.

God bless.


Laurie Wenzel • Though ideas may not be new, it they are repackaged with contemporary language and application they may seem more relavent. I too sense that Adventists are stagnating. Most of the sermons don't really say anything relavent to living or about interatacting with our current volatile times. Because the church doesn't say much to me here in FL I go to Joyce Meyers for inspiration and ideas for improving one's character...I see her many of her ideas as contemporary restatements of what EGW had to say.

I go to people like Glen Beck to see how one should react to situations like national regulations against religious freedom for Catholics (could be us!) and subversive activities against our democratic allies like Israel.

During WWII the SDA church joined the Germany state church under Hitler while other churches like the Confessional church stood against the Nazification of Germany. I think our church could be in danger of doing something like that today.

There are heresies creeping into some churches here in FL....and I think it's because the church is not relavent...There are professors postulating that perhaps God didn't really kill. The Bible writers just wrote their perception of the events, but God didn't kill. Perhaps a little theistic evolution would explain things a little better and connect us to the rest of the world, etc. Let's invite immams, Buddhist monks and everyone else to explain how wonderful their beliefs are...and maybe even though SDAs aren't saying it...their could be an assumption that beliefs of the various churches are kind of equal to Christianity.

I'm finding quite a few liberal leftists unaware and out of touch with our country's Christian heritage which has affected policies and daily life in the U.S.

Before anyone catagorically dismisses my comments as from a wingnut...consider this...The department of homeland security has several times issued memos watching for those who are patriotic and who talk about the Constitution. Yet, there no watches for athiestic flag burners...To me this may indicate that the current administration is fearful of the influence of conservatives...Yes. Conservative Christians are REAL bad people...Our country is the most generous and charitable in the world - giving more to aid without the government's help. And yes, that last statement is issued with a little tongue in cheek.


Frank T. Clark • Dave: Good observation. We are surrounded by many heresies and "new" ideas. There is much to fear without divine guidance. The quotes above and many others have a message to us and to the denomination. However safe it may appear to just hold on to what we have, we are instructed more light will come from God. We have the additional protecting guidance this is old light from the Word, which is only new to us. The Bible tells us the issue is allowing Satan to deceive us to think we don't need any more truth. The restoration of the weekly seventh-day Sabbath is a big and important step. There is more.

Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing...

Laurie: You don't sound like a wingnut to me. There are events in the world, which should concern us. However, I am not highly impressed with the concern to be relevant to modern times as the great need of God's people. God does not change. His truth is eternal and unchanging.

Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not...

We need to grow into additional truth, which we will need in these end times. Our guidance does not come from the people of this world but from the Creator of the world.

"I have been shown that many who profess to have a knowledge of present truth know not what they believe. They do not understand the evidences of their faith. They have no just appreciation of the work for the present time. When the time of trial shall come, there are men now preaching to others who will find, upon examining the positions they hold, that there are many things for which they can give no satisfactory reason. Until thus tested they knew not their great ignorance. And there are many in the church who take it for granted that they understand what they believe; but, until controversy arises, they do not know their own weakness. When separated from those of like faith and compelled to stand singly and alone to explain their belief, they will be surprised to see how confused are their ideas of what they had accepted as truth. Certain it is that there has been among us a departure from the living God and a turning to men, putting human in place of divine wisdom." {5T 707.2}


Daniel Murray • Really great discussion here.

There is indeed light that we do not yet have. This is at both an individual and Church level; every day I read new light for me personally. When I ask the Holy Spirit to give me understanding, I see things that I didn't see before, and it makes my Christian experience all the more amazing.

Indeed 1 Corinthians 8:2 tells us that we know nothing yet as we ought. So whatever we think we know, we don't yet know it as well as we should. It is of vital importance that we approach the scriptures that way. If we believe that we know all there is to know about Daniel 8:14, for example, we may think that we no longer need to study it. And if we stop studying a subject, we are decreasing the opportunity for the Holy Spirit to give us additional light.

We can look at whether the 'organisation' has slowed down, but in my view we should focus on the individuals. God's church is made up of individuals. In that sense I agree entirely with Dave Clark.

The problem with the SDA Church is that it is focusing too much on bringing in new people - contemporary worship services to attract the youth, for example. But our job is not, and has never been, to attract people into the Church by virtue of worship services. Our mission has been to tell people of the love of God in the form of the death of His Son, Jesus Christ, and the hope that we have as Christians in that God resurrected and glorified Christ after His death. The gospel message is the seed, and where a seed has been planted, the Holy Spirit can work on that person. If people aren't coming into the Church to hear the truth alone, what have we become?

We are slowly losing our identity as the bearers of present truth. We have the three angel's messages and are nearing the time when the message of the third angel will make everyone stand up and listen. But don't forget that fourth angel in Revelation 18. When the Sunday law is in full swing, God's people will be called out of apostasy into light. But where will they go? The SDA Church was split in the 1950s on the nature of Christ, and it remains split today. I can't go to the Church I grew up in because the pastor teaches that we don't need to keep the commandments for salvation and that there is no judgment. So the damage of the 1950s is felt everywhere. But there are the genuine Christians who love God and want to obey Him. If we are in the small number who obey God, we must not worry about the state of the SDA Church. God has a plan, and if the SDA Church was meant to be divided on the nature of Christ, then so be it.

God has a plan for us all. We cannot see what it is, but in faith we follow the path that God sets before us. The truth also, God has a plan for getting the truth to the world. We are living in the sifting time, God's true people are being tried and tested. Perhaps the problems in the Church are allowed in order to strengthen the faith of the true believers. I'd rather our beloved denomination did not allow heresy to be taught from its pulpit and it's universities, but it does. Do we reject it on this ground? No, surely not. But we must make a stand for truth.

Here's an extract from Upward Look p.315:

"God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. “Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them” (Matthew 18:20). Where Christ is even among the humble few, this is Christ’s church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides... The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God’s great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God"


George Gomoll • If new truth is supposed to come from God's Law, perhaps we should look at the laws God has already given us, not just the ten commandments, but all the laws given by God in the first five books of the Bible, especially Leviticus and Deuteronomy. As our Jewish friends would say" Truth is found in the Torah"


Frank T. Clark • George: Bingo! The statutes of the Law of Moses are exactly what we are talking about. We can't invent God's Law. He gave it to us long ago. He knew part of His law would be ignored and foretold it in His own words telling us what He expects.

Malachi 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.

Currently the SDA denomination proclaims the Law of Moses is nailed to the cross. This is false and contradicts the Word of God Himself. I believe this is the heart of the current problems in the church.


Several times the importance of individual responsibility and growth was noted along with the need for corporate responsibility and growth.

Continued next week...

Are you aware of the problem of stagnation in the church and maybe in your own life?

I pray we may all continue to seek love, peace, and unity in truth preparing for the soon coming of IAUShUO (ee-ah-oo-shoo-oh) Messiah, the Son of God.

Frank T. Clark
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