2014-09-12 Exclusivity II


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Dear Brothers and Sisters in IAUA (ee-ah-oo-ah) our Father,

Greetings on this day of preparation for the weekly Sabbath. I pray this newsletter finds you in good health and happy in the service of IAUA. This is the 17th day of the 6th month of God's Sacred Calendar in the estimated year 6018 Anno Mundi.

The Fall Sabbaths begin in 2 weeks with Trumpets on the evening of the 1st day of the 7th month (Friday, September 26th on the 2014, Gregorian Calendar, at sunset on Thursday, September 25th).

The Sacred month begins on the world day after lunar conjunction and the sacred year begins with the Spring Passover Rule dates for determining the Gregorian Calendar dates of God's Sacred Calendar. The Millerite Calendar (Spring New Moon Rule) is the same this year. The Calculated Rabbinical Calendar is one day early in the fall.


I am continuing to participate on occasion in discussions on a Messianic Judaism forum. I participated in a discussion that began with an examination of the focus of the gospel but shifted to a discussion of exclusivity. I have written previously on some of my observations about exclusivity.

Exclusivity
http://www.iaua.name/Archives/2013/2013-05-10.html

The discussion is heavily edited for brevity and focus. The original can be found at:

What Gospel?
http://theloveofgod.proboards.com/thread/3451/gospel


Post by Questor

What gospel are we to declare? Salvation through Yehoshua, or the presence of the Kingdom?

Matthew 3:1-3 (CJB)
1 It was during those days that Yochanan the Immerser arrived in the desert of Y’hudah and began proclaiming the message,
2 “Turn from your sins to God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near!”
3 This is the man Yesha‘yahu was talking about when he said, “The voice of someone crying out: ‘In the desert prepare the way of Adonai! Make straight paths for him!’”

Matthew 4:17 (CJB)
17 From that time on, Yeshua began proclaiming, “Turn from your sins to God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near!”

Yochanan's message here is identical with Yeshua's at 4:17.

Kingdom of Heaven.

The word "Heaven" was used in pious avoidance of the word "God" (see 1:20N); and to this day Hebrew malkhut-haShammayim ("Kingdom of Heaven") substitutes in Jewish religious literature for "Kingdom of God," an expression found frequently in the New Testament, first at 6:33 below. In the Jewish New Testament "Heaven" is capitalized when it refers to God; "heaven" is in lower-case when it refers to the sky or paradise. In both Yochanan's and Yeshua's preaching (4:17) the reason for urgency to repent is that the Kingdom of Heaven is near. The concept of the Kingdom of God is crucial to understanding the Bible. It refers neither to a place nor to a time, but to a condition in which the rulership of God is acknowledged by humankind, a condition in which God's promises of a restored universe free from sin and death are, or begin to be, fulfilled.

Jewish New Testament Commentary.


Post by alon

You almost answered your own question there. Yeshua and Him crucified is who we preach. As God incarnate, who died for our sins, He is the way to salvation.

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

So, in line with this and what you said, I'd say we preach the same gospel as was preached by Yochanan, in Torah and by the Prophets, that of Yeshua. The whole Bible points to Him.

Dan C


Post by Questor

So, when do we start? And how?


Post by alon

That is actually a very good question.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

"The Great Commission" was not given to everyone, yet it was. One of the great Biblical dichotomies. Yeshua was talking to His talmedim when He said that- men who had walked in His footsteps, trained with Him and were about to be empowered by the Ruach to take His besorah to the world. Before we start to preach we need to study. We need to talk with others of like mind and solidify what we believe, and why. And we need to pray for the guidance of the Ruach HaChodesh.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

However we should begin to witness about what God has done for us immediately. Not only should our lives show it, but we should always stand ready to tell what we do know to those God puts in front of us. He knows what we are ready for.

So just study up, witness where you can!

Dan ;) C


Post by Questor

I'm already doing that. I meant as a Messianic Community, how do we reach out to the MainC Believers, and when are we going to start?

I write on forums, and comment on Blogs to get other people to look at what they have not yet seen, but I see no groups doing outreach anywhere...do you?


Post by alon

Our synagogue does, and they are growing. They are outgrowing their 3rd building just since I became associated with them. And we are starting another, possibly two congregations on the coast. I am trying to figure out how to start a group here but the Rabbi doesn't think I'm quite ready yet. So I study, I pray, and I wait. But I do always stand ready to share or defend what I believe. This pastor I am talking to- I'm not sure which I'm doing really. One thing is for sure, he knows his own theology and is extremely strong in his faith! He's preached under the rifles of those who'd have sooner killed him than risk any problems on their watch- in Africa, India and other places where revolution is a fact of life.

Dan C


Post by Frank T. Clark

A very good discussion topic. Both items are parts are the gospel.

I cringe when I see a quote of Matthew 28:19 without the hugely important next verse.

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Study and observance (obedience) is very important but we must share and teach others about obedience. This is the problem with Christianity, which has gone soft on obedience. I also do most of my sharing on the Internet because the congregation (denomination) I attend doesn't want to hear about going all the way in obedience.

I don't read many posts here because of the heavy overt focus on Messianic Judaism, which goes beyond simple obedience of what God says. I am caught between the extremes of ignoring part of what God commands in Christianity and traditional observance beyond what God says. I seek to practice a primitive religion that does all and only what God says. Omnis Scriptura et Sola Scriptura.

I also feel the struggle of doing more than I am but I find tremendous guidance and comfort in the incredibly powerful prophecy of Malachi 4. I particularly treasure these verses.

Malachi 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

So I persevere following the Lamb.

Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


Post by jimmie

Sounds good to me.


Post by alon

Most people who are on their own with this could be classified as God-fearers. They follow Torah, but do not take on its whole yoke and become proselytes to Judaism; or in the case since Yeshua full Messianic Judaism. I was that way until I found a Messianic fellowship and a good Rabbi who I could study under. Even then, it took some time for me to come around to take on the full responsibilities of becoming Jewish/fully Messianic. However Biblically we are either Jewish or goyim- of the nations, pagans, heathens. Other than that the only distinctions were Strangers in the Gate or God-fearers.

God-fearers, to the best of my understanding are saved. And going this on your own this may be the best you can do. I'd just encourage you all not to eschew all of the traditions of Judaism. I don't follow what has come to be known as Rabbinical Judaism, with every tradition and fence in place. But I do find value in many of their holidays, traditions etc. Just saying keep an open mind.


Post by Frank T. Clark

"However Biblically we are either Jewish or goyim- of the nations, pagans, heathens."

This attitude is exactly why I don't participate more in this forum. Exclusiveness. Either you accept everything [Messianic]Judasim says or you are heathen. Even when there is clear teachings of disobedience to what the Bible teaches.

John 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
:40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.


The remainder of the discussion got heated and confused but in the end, while understanding prevailed, Messianic Judaism tradition continued to be upheld as the goal. Everyone is on that path or they are not fully pleasing God. The most objectionable part of this viewpoint is that a rabbi is required to lead you to truth.

Do you know some tradition that sees itself as the exclusive source of truth?

I pray we may all continue to seek love, peace, and unity in truth preparing for the soon coming of IAUShUO (ee-ah-oo-shoo-oh) Messiah, the Son of God.

Frank T. Clark
Eliau@IAUA.name
www.IAUA.name

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